The Next Move

Building the future we want in the ultimate moment for reorganizing.

A People's Action podcast hosted by George Goehl

In The Next Move, we’re talking about building the future we want out of this moment of darkness. Our host, George Goehl is one of the nation’s leading progressive organizers. Since COVID-19 hit, George found there was no shortage of people who could tell him just how screwed we are. But he wanted to talk with people focused on solutions and action.

Across the eight-episode series, George Goehl will interview eight experts on transforming our social contract to build the future we want. This podcast will describe the society we want to build out of the wreckage–and map out how we’ll build it together.

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Episode Guide

Episode 1: Making Meaning with Maurice Mitchell

Summary

The pandemic has merged with this incredible moment of uprising, which is opening the opportunity to win real structural change for Black lives now.  There’s nowhere to hide from a conversation about racism in America, and our collective agitation is a really good thing. Maurice Mitchell, the National Director of The Working Families Party and a leader in the Movement for Black Lives, shares more about this opportunity for mass education, the multi-racial coalition against white supremacy, the fight against cynicism, and the winning math of adding rather than subtracting.

Guest bio

Maurice Mitchell (@mauricewfp) is the National Director of The Working Families Party and the co-founder of Blackbird, an anchor organization within the Movement for Black Lives. 

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Episode 2: The Care Economy, Employment and a Living Wage with Ai-jen Poo

Summary

Overnight essential work has become part of the global lexicon. Ai-jen Poo, founder and Executive Director of the National Domestic Workers Alliance, talks to George about forging a new common sense out of this vocabulary--and the opportunity we have to re-examine how we think about work and what work we value.  

Guest bio

Ai-jen is the executive director of National Domestic Workers Alliance, director of Caring Across Generations, and co-host of Sunstorm (@sunstormpod).

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Episode 3: A Homes Guarantee with Tara Raghuveer

Summary

Rent is due and sheltering in place becomes infinitely more difficult if you can’t make rent. In this episode, George talks about our national housing crisis with Tara Raguvheer, Director of KC Tenants and the Housing Campaign Director for People’s Action–and what our world can look like if we detach profit motives from the provisioning of basic needs, like a place to call to home.    

 

Guest bio

Tara Raguvheer is the Director of KC Tenants and the Housing Campaign Director for People’s Action.

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Join our weekly organizing call for a Homes Guarantee.

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  • Read our briefing book, "A National Homes Guarantee," a vision straight from the people impacted by the nation's housing crisis. 
  • Watch our Homes Guarantee intro video.
  • "The mismatch between housing need and costs has been a constant feature of the U.S. economy," Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor in The New Yorker. "The dynamic is especially acute for African-Americans."
  • Read more about Tara's work and the work of the Homes Guarantee team in The New York Times as they re-imagine organizing in an age of social distancing.

Episode 4: Merging Race and Class with Ian Haney Lopez

Summary

Dog whistle politics is a long held strategy of American politics. George talks to Ian Haney Lopez, Professor of Public Law at UC Berkeley, about how the rich and powerful use racism as a weapon to sow a divide between race and class. This divide has only been made clearer during the pandemic and the weeks of uprisings around racial justice. But if we name this strategy, perhaps we can merge race and class and build the country we want. A multiracial democracy that works for all of us.

Guest bio

Ian Haney Lopez is Chief Justice Earl Warren Professor of Public Law at UC Berkeley and Director of the Racial Politics Project at the Haas Institute for a Fair and Inclusive Society.  His latest book is Merge Left: Fusing Race and Class, Winning Elections, and Saving America.