The Next Move

Building the future we want in the ultimate moment for reorganizing.

A People's Action podcast hosted by George Goehl

In The Next Move, we’re talking about building the future we want out of this moment of darkness. Our host, George Goehl is one of the nation’s leading progressive organizers. Since COVID-19 hit, George found there was no shortage of people who could tell him just how screwed we are. But he wanted to talk with people focused on solutions and action.

Across the eight-episode series, George Goehl will interview eight experts on transforming our social contract to build the future we want. This podcast will describe the society we want to build out of the wreckage–and map out how we’ll build it together.

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Episode Guide

Episode 1: Making Meaning with Maurice Mitchell

Summary

The pandemic has merged with this incredible moment of uprising, which is opening the opportunity to win real structural change for Black lives now.  There’s nowhere to hide from a conversation about racism in America, and our collective agitation is a really good thing. Maurice Mitchell, the National Director of The Working Families Party and a leader in the Movement for Black Lives, shares more about this opportunity for mass education, the multi-racial coalition against white supremacy, the fight against cynicism, and the winning math of adding rather than subtracting.

Guest bio

Maurice Mitchell (@mauricewfp) is the National Director of The Working Families Party and the co-founder of Blackbird, an anchor organization within the Movement for Black Lives. 

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Episode 2: The Care Economy, Employment and a Living Wage with Ai-jen Poo

Summary

Overnight essential work has become part of the global lexicon. Ai-jen Poo, founder and Executive Director of the National Domestic Workers Alliance, talks to George about forging a new common sense out of this vocabulary--and the opportunity we have to re-examine how we think about work and what work we value.  

Guest bio

Ai-jen is the executive director of National Domestic Workers Alliance, director of Caring Across Generations, and co-host of Sunstorm (@sunstormpod).

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Episode 3: A Homes Guarantee with Tara Raghuveer

Summary

Rent is due and sheltering in place becomes infinitely more difficult if you can’t make rent. In this episode, George talks about our national housing crisis with Tara Raguvheer, Director of KC Tenants and the Housing Campaign Director for People’s Action–and what our world can look like if we detach profit motives from the provisioning of basic needs, like a place to call to home.    

 

Guest bio

Tara Raguvheer is the Director of KC Tenants and the Housing Campaign Director for People’s Action.

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Join our weekly organizing call for a Homes Guarantee.

Learn More

  • Read our briefing book, "A National Homes Guarantee," a vision straight from the people impacted by the nation's housing crisis. 
  • Watch our Homes Guarantee intro video.
  • "The mismatch between housing need and costs has been a constant feature of the U.S. economy," Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor in The New Yorker. "The dynamic is especially acute for African-Americans."
  • Read more about Tara's work and the work of the Homes Guarantee team in The New York Times as they re-imagine organizing in an age of social distancing.

Episode 4: Merging Race and Class with Ian Haney Lopez

Summary

Dog whistle politics is a long held strategy of American politics. George talks to Ian Haney Lopez, Professor of Public Law at UC Berkeley, about how the rich and powerful use racism as a weapon to sow a divide between race and class. This divide has only been made clearer during the pandemic and the weeks of uprisings around racial justice. But if we name this strategy, perhaps we can merge race and class and build the country we want. A multiracial democracy that works for all of us.

Guest bio

Ian Haney Lopez is Chief Justice Earl Warren Professor of Public Law at UC Berkeley and Director of the Racial Politics Project at the Haas Institute for a Fair and Inclusive Society.  His latest book is Merge Left: Fusing Race and Class, Winning Elections, and Saving America.

Episode 5: Government for All of Us with Heather McGhee

Summary

What role can our government play in making our lives better? And what role can we play in our government? Heather McGhee, Distinguished Senior Fellow and former President of Demos, is just the person to answer these questions. In this episode, George talks to Heather about building on our gut-level interconnectivity towards a more inclusive future.  Heather McGhee digs into the work that needs doing, how we transform our government and do that in a way that creates meaningful, equitable jobs for everyone.

Guest bio

Heather McGhee is Distinguished Senior Fellow at Demos, the “think-and-do” tank that she ran from 2014 to 2018.  She is author of the forthcoming book, The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together.

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Episode 6: Building a Coalition with Robert Kraig

Summary

Because the pandemic has intensified the unequal, dangerous structure of our healthcare system, we need to establish healthcare as a guaranteed right for everyone. Which means now is the time for bold mandates and the creation of a new common sense that centers on a coalitional government. George talks with Robert Kraig, Executive Director of Citizen Action of Wisconsin, about lessons we’ve learned from the New Deal and the Works Progress Administration, and even the Great Recession, about building a healthier, more equitable future.  

Guest bio

Robert Kraig is Executive Director of Citizen Action of Wisconsin and serves on the People’s Action Board of Directors. 

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  • See this story in The Nation covering the work of Robert's group, Citizen Action of Wisconsin, titled "Real Progressive Change Is Happening From the Ground Up."

  •  Citizen Action of Wisconsin organized a rally that called for federal action to provide financial assistance to institutions and individuals still struggling due to COVID-19. Learn more.

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Episode 7: Make a F*@&ing Play with Marisa Franco

Summary

We are becoming an America we’ve never been. The Latinx community has been hit hard by COVID 19. Marisa Franco, director and co-founder of Mijente, talks with George about organizing infrastructure to support progressive leadership in the immigrant rights and broader Latinx and Chicanx community. This brutal moment of recovering, unlearning, and remembering is teaching us that we are only as safe and healthy as the most vulnerable among us -- and that through inclusive collectivity, we can move from respectability politics to strong, multiracial alliances and people power.

Guest bio

Marisa Franco is the Phoenix-based Director and Co-founder of Mijente, a hub for Latinx and Chicanx organizing and movement-building. 

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Join our Texting Tuesdays program!

Episode 8: Onward with George Goehl

Summary

In our final episode, George expresses his hope that we can organize the most people to create long term, transformative change for America.

Guest bio

George Goehl is one of the nation’s leading progressive organizers and director of People's Action.

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  • Here’s the scoop on one way we can build through addition - deep canvassing, here’s a Medium piece about the work. 

  • Wanna learn more about George, check out this conversation with Chris Hayes.  

  • Here’s a video Billie Kirkton of People’s Action Institute created to push back against misinformation about the protests in response to the killing of George Floyd and so many Black people. AND to encourage celebration of Juneteenth in rural communities.  

Take Action

  • We need to keep the pressure on our U.S. Senators and make sure that they all take our relief needs seriously and advance a relief package that includes cash relief, extended unemployment insurance, an eviction moratorium and rental assistance, support for immigrants and essential workers, etc. Call, email, & tweet your US Senators demanding a People's Bailout

  • If you want to defend Black Lives, Support the BREATHE Act.  

  • The Black Futures Lab was created by Alicia Garza. Their work is the work. Check it out.